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I write a report on every Riverside FC match.

The Loughborough Echo barely publish them in the newspaper.

I think people here would be interested in reading the full-length reports rather than one or two lines about goalscorers.

This is a thread welcoming teams to send their weekly match reports here, for others to read if they wish.

I wish start by posting our most recent one, from this weeks match against United Aces.

If you wish to read more of our match reports, please visit www.riversidefc.synthasite.com where you will find the full archive of reports.
Riverside FC

Respect Row Threatens to Ruin Riverside Rampage

Respect Row Threatens to Ruin Riverside Rampage

Riverside 17-0 United Aces

Sunday 25th January 2009

Riverside overran their ten-men visiting opponents, United Aces, by seventeen goals to nil. Riverside might have felt a touch of déjà-vu, as the game harboured yet more negative undertones, coming only a week after the referees’ secretary resigned from officiating duties as a direct result of the match-day abuse at Three Nuns FC, which may have cancelled out Riverside’s 4-3 lead in the fixture.

Only fifteen minutes into their match against United Aces, the visitors found themselves manager-less, as their coach was ordered to leave the pitch-side after protesting angrily against a series of offside decisions. Opposed to the foul language being hurled at himself and his officials, the referee attempted to remove the reluctant manager from the touchline. It eventually took words from the Aces captain to convince his manager to back away from the pitch, in order to avoid the referee abandoning the game.

Already 8 goals up at the break, Manager Aaron Jones encouraged his side to aim for the league record of 26 goals in one match, but Riverside will have happily settled for 17, boosting their goal difference to a staggering +63.

The Aces could have found themselves reduced to 9 men when a player lashed out after a coming-together, as the Charnwood League’s bottom side became understandably more frustrated.

However, Riverside showed no mercy and compounding United Aces’ misery were hat-tricks from in-form strikers Phil Lowe and Tom Marriott, 4 goals from Dean Betts, and a wonderful headed goal from Mark Cullen, opening his account for the season. Even goalkeeper Lee Waters had
chance to convert a spot-kick, for good measure.

Had the referee not shown as much courage, it would have been the second fixture in as many weeks to be abandoned for Riverside, who are desperate to prove themselves, and reach the top of the league.  Riverside meet Breedon next, who have been very impressive at home this season, in a potentially title-deciding encounter, sure to be full of action.


www.riversidefc.synthasite.com
Celtic_Steve

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This is a thread welcoming teams to send their weekly match reports here, for others to read if they wish.


Well, that's what this part of the forum's all about...  Wink  Very Happy
dr chan

SING WHEN YOUR WINNING YOU ONLY SING WHEN YOUR WINNING!!!!!
yeomansram

is that correct? breedon r suposed to be playing swannington in the cup? ? ?
Celtic_Steve

Breedon are playing Swannington in the cup. Riverside are away at Britannia.
Riverside FC

Rearguard Riverside Rule Britannia

Rearguard Riverside Rule Britannia

Britannia Inn F.C.  0-7 Riverside F.C.

Sunday Feb 1st 2009

An excellent defensive display, exemplified by Aiden McGovern’s sterling performance at centre-back, and sheer quantity of possession, was the winning combination for Riverside against Britannia Inn this weekend.

The div 4 new boys moved up into second place after notching up 7 goals away from home in difficult conditions, to overcome a busy Britannia side. As the wind persisted to whip about violently, with a hint of snow in the air, Riverside set out deploy a slow-paced passing game, resulting in dominating possession and ultimately stifling Britannia, denying them one single effort on goal in the whole match.

The visitors’ patience would have resulted in a larger return of goals, had they not been thwarted by the surface on so many occasions as they were. Twice McGovern blamed the run of the ball for him not succeeding in capping his performance with a goal, and it must have been an invisible Spectre stopping him from converting the other three chances that came his way. Possibly Jonathan.

Sileby Town striker Tom Marriott topped up his tally with another hat-trick, bringing him to an impressive 40 goals this season. Riverside will need him to be on form again next week as they look for revenge against Walsh UK, who aside from beating Riverside in the first fixture of the season, recently upset Sileby Athletic’s chances of promotion, dealing them a 3-1 defeat away from home.


dr chan wrote:
SING WHEN YOUR WINNING YOU ONLY SING WHEN YOUR WINNING!!!!!


*Just keeps on singing...*
Ace_Striker

All I'm seeing from riverside is reports of u hammering teams, sounds to me like ur in the wrong division..?
birstallstamfordanumber1

Maybe we will get to see how great they are when they (inevitably) get promoted up two divisions to div 2 next season???
Ian @ Birstall Trees

Having played Riverside recently, and being thumped 13-1 (could have been 30-1), I can safely say they are in the wrong division

That said, fair play to them, they are a cracking side, and would give any team in Div 2, or above, a good game, which im sure you will find out soon.
Ace_Striker

By the looks of your 1st team ian and there struggle in the Prem, i think u could safely say they would give them a game.
Ian @ Birstall Trees

When we got back down the pub after playing Riverside, we did mention to the first team lads that they would have been hard pressed to beat them, which of course they took in all good humour!!! but your right, times are hard at the Trees at the moment, the landlord is leaving in two weeks, so not even sure if we will have a pub team to play for next year.

Can't see the Stanny wanting a B & C side, so might have to re-invent ourselves as Birstall Nomads!!!
azzariverside

One of our players does the reports for us would be nice to see some other reports from other teams...birstall thanks for your praise its nice to recive it from other teams....maybe we could sort some friendlys out for next season against your 1st team as its always good to test your self against better opposition to see what stanard you have to play at to be in the top divisions Very Happy
Ace_Striker

We had a very competative game against Birstall tress 1st team preseason. Thankfully we won but never the less they will give u a physical game!
Riverside FC

Groby Dynamo,

i looked at your site, it says its your first year in the league i think??

if thats true, how are you in div 2?
Ace_Striker

Charnwood screening process, for some reason they looked at a few of our players and said we were too good for 4th div. I said 3rd then but they decided on 2nd.
Personally I would have like to climb up the leagues from bottom to top but hey..!
my my

pothunt you mean
Riverside FC

Ace_Striker wrote:
Charnwood screening process, for some reason they looked at a few of our players and said we were too good for 4th div. I said 3rd then but they decided on 2nd.
Personally I would have like to climb up the leagues from bottom to top but hey..!


Screening process?

Would have been nice if they'd have bothered with us, would have saves us a couple of years of getting booted in the legs by teams who don't know any better, *cough* Nuns *cough*.
Matt B

I think the conversation between Ace Striker & Riverside demonstrates a potential lack of consistensy in the approach by the League in relation to the admittance of new clubs to the CSFL. If there is a protocol already in place for this then I apologise. However, it seems to me, and has done for years, ( even prior to the new set up of the committee ) that a very flipant approach has been taken to the assessment and subsequent positioning of 'new clubs' to an appropriate division upon receipt of their application and acceptance to the league.

It appears that Groby have been assessed by the league based on their player registrations. It would be interesting to see if this was the same for all the other clubs?  I watched Riverside play against Shelthorpe Lions in a pre-season friendly and it didn't take an Alex Ferguson knowledge of football to know that Riverside were far better that their Div 4 status. In my opinion a Div 2/3 plotting would have been far more appropriate. However, that is based on a personal opinion and this shouldn't suffice. Either, it would be better to have one rule for all. ( i.e any new team starts in Div 4 ) or a fairer system of assessment.

My personal opinion is that ALL new teams should be required to play a minimum of 3 friendlies in July/August. These games should be against established clubs from varying divisions. These games should be monitored either by a league referee and/or official and a recommendation then made based on their performance. I could elaborate in greater detail, but I think the general idea is there. This process would ensure that there are more competitive games at all levels and that every team is treated fairly.

Matt
Charnwood Foresters FC
Webbo1981

Well said
Celtic_Steve

Matt,

Good post. I like it when people point out a problem and then offer a solution rather than just moan about it! Wink To be honest I can see some logistical issues with your idea around how early in the season break these games will need to be played, but I'm sure these aren't insurmountable.

Although I am not a part of, or party to, the screening process for new clubs I would like to defend the league slightly.

If you take the example of these two clubs here, Groby and Riverside, you will see that Groby have been positioned in div 2 on the basis of their registered players being known to the league. Looking at their performance so far in various competitions I would say that the League got this correct. If Riverside's players aren't known to the league then it is much harder to judge, even with playing pre-season friendlies etc. If you also look at Division 4 then you will also see a lot of other new teams (United Aces, Ashby Railway, Trees Res., Sileby Athletic) and one other (Britannia) who have only been around for one season. That's most of the league! If you take Riverside out of the equation for a moment can you honestly say that the League got the rest wrong? Finally on this point, Riverside haven't won it yet - Breedon are only one point behind and one game ahead and although they've played more, the Nuns have the points and are top. Maybe we should be congratulating Riverside on their achievement rather than pointing our fingers at the League.

The important thing is to make sure that the divisions are a balance of fair competition, but with some element of differing ability otherwise the title would be decided by a coin-toss every year. Someone has to finish top and someone has to finish bottom.

This sort of thing does raise other issues about clubs' player registrations in general however; look at last season's div 4 annihilation by 'existing' clubs Beacon and Lady Jane 98, as well as other clubs folding due to player exodus and instability.

My advice to anyone wanting to pursue this further would be to take one or more of the following actions:

Talk to other club managers/secreaties about these issues and see if they share your opinions.

Write to the League General Secretary with any concerns or suggestions.

When the Proposition for Rule Amendments comes around this year, propose some.

When the call goes out for club representatives to join the League Committee, step up and get involved.

Sorry for the Essay!  Rolling Eyes

Steve.  Very Happy
Matt B

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the response. As you know I am 100% behind our League and in particular the committee in their attempts to make the CSFL the best league in Leicestershire. Therfore any ideas forwarded are purely for discussion/debate and in no way should they be considered as critcism.

As far as I am concerned, the more 'new' teams that we can attract to the league the better and this applies at every level of ability. However, I do believe that a fairer assessment of new clubs is somethng that needs to be reviewed ( if possible ). We must ensure that our existing teams especially the likes of the Nuns, Breedon Walsh UK etc do'nt have to settle for mid table every year due to the incorrect assessment of a new team who win their divison comfortably. However, I do appreciate that it is very difficult to get every decision right and it is noted that the league have made some good decisions too ( Quorn side in Div 1 being an example ). Having 17years+ experience in this league in all divisions, I would be more than happy to assist in this pre-season. Albeit, I agree with your concerns with timescale. However, in that regard, should the impotus not be on the team entering our league to make the necessary fixture requirements as part of their registration.  

Not sure about the comment in relation to the competition being so tight it could be won on the toss of a coin being a bad thing? I think that the tighter the leagues are the better. Infact, I would go as far as saying the premier league this year is as close as it ever has been. There are 4 or 5 teams capable of winning the title even at the other end there are 4 or 5 who could still go down. Surely, nobody wants a league won by 15-20pts?

Anyway, i know we have the best interests of the league & all the clubs at heart which is why I believe constructive and honest debate can take place without fear of offence being taken.

Lets hope we can all get back to some footy this weekend!

Matt
Celtic_Steve

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Lets hope we can all get back to some footy this weekend!


Chance would be a fine thing! Tried to book an all-weather pitch last week to give the lads a run-out but it was closed - because of the weather!    scratch
Ace_Striker

Clearly no an all weather pitch then hey...

I might sue them for false advertising.

HA HA
tjriverside

With defence to league i dont think they could have screened our team very easily, because a lot of our players had not played sundays and there previous teams were youth teams, i.e barrow town under 18s and then gone away to university.

So I think it would have been a bit of a gamble to put us in a high division, as reference to having friendlies before being allocated a division, we were asked if we had any in our interview which we hadn't so i dont think we helped ourselves very much there.

I think the league in general has done a good job of allocating teams in divisions, you only need to look at the county cup competions we have one or two teams in every competion bar one so surely that is a strong indication at how strong the csfl really is.

But the standard of division 4 is still very competitive with some good sides in there i.e Nuns, Breedon, Royal Oak and Sileby i think this division is more down to consistency than anything.
dazman1982

good point matt but then surely if your putting new teams in higher divisions then other teams have to take their place in lower divisions. there would be nothing worse than battling all season to stay up only to be told by the league that you'll be thrown down a division next year because your deemed not good enough.
its also not fun to get battered each week by some crazy score line, so i dont think there really is a fair system. you can only hope teams stay in the league and not drop out and 'start again' as the case may be.
hopefully we would then have a more balanced league to be apart of.
Matt B

A very valid point. I agree that I don't think that there is an 'ideal' solution to this debate. Fortunately I can't recall ( but prepare to stand corrected ) that any side has been relegated finishing 3rd from bottom. This would be far too cruel and it would be extremely unfais for a new team to beplaced in a higher league as a replacement for an existing club.

However, whilst I don't know the exact statistics there appear to be always a handful of sides which fold each season. I would guesstimate that approximately the same amout of teams that fold are replaced by new teams joining. From memory these sides appear to be predominantly from the top end of the league ( glenfield nags head, glenfield town, sileby malt house, charnwood foxes, ring o bells, thorpe acre, Newbold verdon - all prem sides to fold in recent seasons  ). If these teams fold at the top then there is the opportunity for sides to be promoted even though they did not finish in the top 2. I remember a couple of seasons ago we got promoted after finishing 7th or 8th in Div 3. Alternately, there are empty gaps at the top end of the table to be replaced by the new teams which is where my call for visible assessement would apply.      

If there was an practical assessment via a pre-arranged friendlies process was enforceable this might help..................maybe/maybe not.
Riverside FC

all said and done, its not the end of the world not getting put in a higher division, youre still playing football, which was the initial goal in joining up to the CSFL.

The problem ripples though and effects other teams too, it is a problem which spreads and infects everyone involved, and that is why it should be addresses immediately.

I have personally enjoyed being in division 4, even though it has been a little too easy. It has been a nice learning curve after being out of 11-a-side football for a couple of years, but after a few games i soon got into it, and it was clear our team was going to be finishing near the top of div 4. Im just hoping i havent spoken too soon there, lol.

Back to the problems of not screening 'efficiently'. Being, quite possibly, 'too good' for our division, means that we are charged with the task of putting 15 and 20 goals past demoralised teams on a Sunday, who don't get a chance to enjoy their football. Everyone turns up for a competitive game, those are the ones we relish, and the majority of the time we just haven't got them in division 4. To be honest, the weather conditions have been one of the hardest oppositions to overcome at times, as it has been particularly bad thus far this season.

If what TJriverside said is right, that we hadn't played any friendlies when we asked about them, then it would suggest that these questions were asked a little too early. We began pre-season in june and had friendlies in July as i recall. nobody can reasonably be expected to have matches any earlier than that. Surely the decisions on the leagues can be persponed slightly, to allow teams to test themselves? You don't even need someone down to watch every game.

If we only lose by 5 to Shelly Lions, and beat div 1 side Epinal rovers by 3, the math says we aren't going to be an awful side, so maybe some closer investigation is needed.

With people like Matt on the case I'm confident that steps will be taken towards resolving the issue, as it would improve the league masively in my opinion.
RefSec

I appreciate all that has been discussed on this topic and I agree with Matt that there isn't an ideal solution. With all due respect to Riverside, pre-season friendlies can't always be relied on to give us a definite idea as to the standard of any given team. Saying that, having seen Riverside at first hand I do agree that Division 4 is a little 'easy' for them.
I do suggest, however, that a team from the lower divisions put their name forward to become a club rep. on the league committee. This gives them a say on matters affecting themselves and their colleagues in that division. Also, in a couple of months we will have our A.G.M. and you can make suggestions there.
yeomansram

im just sick of the riverside trumpet blowers on here! stop sl@gging off the league, and moaning.  And for those of you who have not noticed yet the season is far from over!!!! You would of bin complaining more if you had bin put in a higher division and getting stuffed every week and belive me that aint no fun!!!! You just cant win in a situation like this with new teams.  In my opionion all new teams should have to earn the rite to compete in a higher divison, and start at the bottom and work there way up unless they were previously playing at a "higher" standard in a different league.  Just because you have a group of good players doesnt guarantee you success, nor does it give you the rite to think your better than any other team in your division.

It would be sooo funny if riverside came third....... its highly unlikley tho!!! but funnier things happen in football........
tjriverside

yeomansram wrote:
im just sick of the riverside trumpet blowers on here! stop sl@gging off the league, and moaning.  And for those of you who have not noticed yet the season is far from over!!!! You would of bin complaining more if you had bin put in a higher division and getting stuffed every week and belive me that aint no fun!!!! You just cant win in a situation like this with new teams.  In my opionion all new teams should have to earn the rite to compete in a higher divison, and start at the bottom and work there way up unless they were previously playing at a "higher" standard in a different league.  Just because you have a group of good players doesnt guarantee you success, nor does it give you the rite to think your better than any other team in your division.

It would be sooo funny if riverside came third....... its highly unlikley tho!!! but funnier things happen in football........
I dont think any of us are slagging off the league, and i dont think any of our team is thinking we have already won the league, we are very aware that we have some difficult games coming up i.e breedon sileby and royal oak to name but a few so i agree with you that there is still a long way to go, i just think its in our hands
Riverside FC

its not only riverside related people who are saying that Riverside are doing well.

this thread, nor any posts are intended to make something out of Riverside that they are not. I don't believe we have received any fan-mail either.

We are merely discussing the consequence of having a team in a division which is potentially harmful to the overall effect of the game of football.

I love winning every week, so do many of our players. We clearly arent claiming we are the best in charnwood and would win the premier division - we have been knocked out of all the cups by good opposition, and nobody is trying to suggest that we have a weak league.

however, quite simply, there will be better competition, and the standard will improve as will the players, and the quality of viewing for spectators, if more evenly matched teams find themselves playing against each other week in week out.

This whole issue is a reaction to  my interest in how one team gets put into div 2 and another seemingly gets no opportunity to be put in a higher league, even if we might be a decent side - there seemed to be no review process.

But, there was a review process it seemed, or some shadow of one. It is clear though that we wriggled through the net, and that perhaps proceedings could be reviewed to prevent this from happening in the future, and so make the league more competitve, and so that the standards of the leagues reflects the standard of the clubs which contribute to them.

We wouldnt like to have been put in a higher league and be beaten every week thats true. So what about the teams in div 4 who get beaten heavily every week because teams who are too good for the division are being put in with them? It must be demoralising. And unfortunately that is the result of entering a new team into a lower division, if they are already established footballers, even if they don't have the badges and diplomas, so why not try to do something about it? WHy not be constructive instead of just accusing the whole discussion of being a Riverside Rally?

Think about it.
RefSec

I don't consider this thread to be a Riverside fan club. Up until now it has been one of the more 'adult' discussions which is something I welcome. It makes a change to read some intelligent and thought out posts, whether they are from Riverside, Charnwood Foresters or any other club, after all this is the point of a forum isn't it?
yeomansram

im sorry but lets just look at the positives, you have a good young side, and have had an outstanding start in the csfl. I just appreciate what a tricky job the league have in placing these new sides.  And was just stating fact that if you had been placed higher you would of had more of an axe to grind.  Like most divisions in this league there is always a 3/4 teams which pull away from the rest and in my opinion and riverside being in division 4 has done neither the division or riverside any harm at all.  If anything there is still at least 4 sides in that league with more than a shout at getting promoted or higher and as it stands no clear cut leader, games in hand dont count its all about points on the board!  weather you are playing a team at the top or the bottom, you have to beat whats put in front of you!

I played for a team in division 4 who won consecutive cup games against 1st div/premier opposition made it to a cup semi final, but struggled like hell in the league!  But thats the fun of sunday league football anyone pretty much can beat anyone!  

I do indeeed understand the points you raise about maybe you should of been placed higher but that decision now lies with the league at the end of the season.  

You were not the only new side placed in that division and if im honest ashby railway have a good side too, but have had a bit of a shakey start.  Im also keen to see how sielby fair at the end of the season having played soo few games compared to the others around them.

lets all just hope we get a game on sunday weather permitting!!!

and finally.....
Its only a forum, and i was just stating my point!!!
Riverside FC

yeomansram wrote:
 Like most divisions in this league there is always a 3/4 teams which pull away from the rest and in my opinion and riverside being in division 4 has done neither the division or riverside any harm at all.


Well done for stating your point, fair enough, but i still disagree with you, and I am going to explain why.

It is true that in most divisions at any standard of football, gaps begin to develop between the leading pack and the chasing pack, just as time gaps develop in endurance cycling or running races.

However, if you look closer at the league table (not that it appears to be available anywhere on the internet at the moment...), it is not only points which seperate the teams, it is the rediculous goal difference which we have achieved.

When you're beating teams 17-0 and hear them saying that they just want to walk off of the pitch, and seeing how they give up in the last 20 mins, and react in disbelief when the referee tells them there is still 10 or 15 mins left in the game, when they are just hoping for it to end, it's no good.

Teams of lower standard who SHOULD play in the 4th division, and are well capable of competing there will not join the league because it isnt being dealt with correctly, and we are having these stupid scorelines. Players will stop playing if they lose by that much, teams will fold, and ultimately the league will lose out.

Conclusion? There is definitely room for improvement when it comes to the screening process, in order to ensure this kind of thing doesnt keep happening, because it IS a problem which will catch up with the league if it continues.
Ace_Striker

I would expect a team in the cup to lose 17-0, if there is a league game and a team get double figures in a 1 off game then I imagine It could be down to a few reason: Sending off, 9 players turn up, etc.... If a team is regularly hitting double figures, then I agree that you are in the wrong division  And it's not fair on the other teams?
tjriverside

Ace_Striker wrote:
I would expect a team in the cup to lose 17-0, if there is a league game and a team get double figures in a 1 off game then I imagine It could be down to a few reason: Sending off, 9 players turn up, etc.... If a team is regularly hitting double figures, then I agree that you are in the wrong division  And it's not fair on the other teams?
Fair point as our 17-0 result was against 10 men but it was still in the league and it wasnt a 1 off as some of our results show 13-1 against birstall 12-1 and 7-0 against britania another 7-0 against aces and and 8-3 against breedon who are one of our closest rivals hence weve got a goal difference of plus 70 after 12 games.
birstallstamfordanumber1

I believe you guys are taking this all far toooo seriously......but then what do i know  Wink
yeomansram

im going back to sitting on the fence......
dr chan

BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Manuel Pablo

tjriverside wrote:
Ace_Striker wrote:
I would expect a team in the cup to lose 17-0, if there is a league game and a team get double figures in a 1 off game then I imagine It could be down to a few reason: Sending off, 9 players turn up, etc.... If a team is regularly hitting double figures, then I agree that you are in the wrong division  And it's not fair on the other teams?
Fair point as our 17-0 result was against 10 men but it was still in the league and it wasnt a 1 off as some of our results show 13-1 against birstall 12-1 and 7-0 against britania another 7-0 against aces and and 8-3 against breedon who are one of our closest rivals hence weve got a goal difference of plus 70 after 12 games.


It's hardly every week though is it, Walsh have beaten you, the Nuns gave you a good game until world war III kicked off. You only beat us (Railway) 6-3, I believe we had the lead at one point, and we had players out. Greatest respect to Britannia, and I mean it as we managed to lose to them, but they get battered most weeks and did so last season as well. United Aces also normally get a booting when they've got 11 never mind 10 although judging by recent results and our game against them a couple of weeks ago their sorting their shop out.

Will you win the league, maybe so, would you have been better suited in a higher division, maybe so, however it's not like you've strolled through beating every team "15-20" (although where the 20 has come from I don't know as far as I know you've scored 17 once against 10 men and not got above 15 at any other point besides that) you're not even going even going to go the season unbeaten in the league.

Now I've said that you'll probably put 20 past us next week (assuming thats when it'll be)  Laughing
Riverside FC

stuff

Like i said, i was only trying to make a case for a better screening process, not for any kind of celebration of Riverside's greatness.

We are very aware of our various shortcomings, in all competitions this season, and no we won't go the season unbeaten, but i still believe there is evidence there which suggests teams should be looked at more closely in the future before deciding which league to put them in.
Ace_Striker

I think next season u should be in min div 2
Manuel Pablo

In regards for getting a better screening process, I don't think they've done a bad job at all. As it's been said at the end of the day somone needs to win the league and someone needs to finish bottom. I've also just remembred you drew with Sielby as well didn't you? and lost to both of the division three sides you've played in the cup? Saying the league don't know your players I think they've done a good job in placing you.

Believe you me it could be worse you should see some of shocking placements the Leicester Sunday League have made this year, put a team easily good enough for the Premier League in division 2, and I think you've played the Xtreme Alliance this year and I'm sure you'll agree they are a tad better than division 4.
Ace_Striker

HA HA, That’s my mates side and in all fairness its not there fault for the league there in, it was the only slot available I think due to there late entry.

I not watched them yet but I am told from Adam there assistant Manager that they are coming along nicely…
Krashslaughta75

Manuel Pablo wrote:
In regards for getting a better screening process, I don't think they've done a bad job at all. As it's been said at the end of the day somone needs to win the league and someone needs to finish bottom. I've also just remembred you drew with Sielby as well didn't you? and lost to both of the division three sides you've played in the cup? Saying the league don't know your players I think they've done a good job in placing you.

Believe you me it could be worse you should see some of shocking placements the Leicester Sunday League have made this year, put a team easily good enough for the Premier League in division 2, and I think you've played the Xtreme Alliance this year and I'm sure you'll agree they are a tad better than division 4.


I can only speak for who we played against in the C.Cup and that was a side which in no way would perform in our Division 2. I'm not naming names as not really relevant but there were truly awful
Riverside FC

Dean

Can I just say, before you read the rest of this over-dramatic article, that Birstall Trees Reserves gave us the best match we've had all season. It was closely contested, but without the sillyness and stupid tackling you sometimes get. The referee was top class, the whole atmosphere was top class, so thanks Birstall for having us.

Anyway, here goes, and hopefully some other teams can write some reports this weekend? that would be good to know a bit more about how everyone else did, not just the score.

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Classy Riverside Top the Butchers’


The latest club to top the CSFL division 4, Riverside FC, are celebrating a victory of tactics, as they saw their new formation pay dividends, enabling them to complete a closely contested 2-1 away win against a tough, and unfamiliar, Birstall Trees Reserves outfit.

The pre-match talk of Birstall fielding players from their Premier division first team, who had no fixture this weekend, turned out to be more than speculation, but Riverside rose to the occasion and produced what was undoubtedly their best performance to date.

The match, which was a great spectacle for the fans, had absolutely everything, requiring both sets of players to show bravery in the challenge, resolve in their running, and composure with the ball, on what was a very tight pitch.

Riverside eventually converted a chance five minutes before half time, when the league’s leading goal scorer, Tom Marriott, timed his run to perfection, and rose above his marker to head home a corner at the near post.

Predictably, the Trees came out the stronger in the second half, and made their pressure tell when they managed to score a superb curling effort from the edge of the box, which nestled tidily into the top corner to bring the scores level.

Riverside found themselves severely under the cosh as Birstall pushed for a second, relying on a man of the match performance from Adam Sibson to keep themselves afloat in the middle of the park.
The visitors soon regained their grasp on the game, and saw their possession in the opponents third of the pitch turn into a string free-kicks in dangerous positions. Tom Jones came close on two occasions, but agonisingly directed his headers wide of the mark.

The chance eventually came for Dean Betts to have a strike on goal from a dead ball situation, as far as 30 yards out. The Riverside captain stepped up to drill the kick home past the despairing goalkeeper, whose outstretched hand was not enough to keep the fierce strike from flying into the bottom corner.

A chance came soon after for Tom Marriott to convert a penalty when he was brought down blatantly inside the box. Tom blames the pitch for his awful miss, and there might be some truth in it. However, the wasted chance came to nothing, as Riverside held out for the win, giving their title hopes a real boost, just as the league’s remaining fixtures are announced.
birstallstamfordanumber1

im just looking forward to the website being "up and running" again tommorrow...... Wink  Wink  Wink  Wink  Wink  Wink
Ace_Striker

Yeah me too pal, looking forward to the new features
Celtic_Steve

Ace_Striker wrote:
Yeah me too pal, looking forward to the new features

Whoa whoa whoa.  Shocked

New features = next season. This was always the plan.
Tomorrow = just getting our domain name back.

I hope you're not expecting fireworks or anything Confused  Wink
LCFCStu

dazman1982 wrote:
good point matt but then surely if your putting new teams in higher divisions then other teams have to take their place in lower divisions. there would be nothing worse than battling all season to stay up only to be told by the league that you'll be thrown down a division next year because your deemed not good enough.
its also not fun to get battered each week by some crazy score line, so i dont think there really is a fair system. you can only hope teams stay in the league and not drop out and 'start again' as the case may be.
hopefully we would then have a more balanced league to be apart of.


No disrespect, but 1. your team isn't that good. (better than ours, yes but not good enough to be talking about not being in this league) 2. Beacon last season were much stronger than your lot. Not causing offence, just saying that we're not talking about real madrid here!
LCFCStu

When we played you, we were managerless, had about 5 best players out, and 2 were pissed on the pitch. We didnt even have a linesman to give to the ref! we went 3-0 down in about 10 minutes in the first half, ended up losing 3-1. Sileby will win the league, and we will beat riverside at our place!
steansy

to be fair after reading the majority of these posts i do have to agree that maybe the league did mess up on puttin the riverside div 4. But it must be hard to be able to judge a team ability pre season... They obviously made a mistake with riverside, but they seem to have placed us (quorn royals) and groby dynamo in the right division.
two outta three isnt bad in my eyes and they can always have the option to promote them to division two if they wanted.
LCFCStu

steansy wrote:
to be fair after reading the majority of these posts i do have to agree that maybe the league did mess up on puttin the riverside div 4. But it must be hard to be able to judge a team ability pre season... They obviously made a mistake with riverside, but they seem to have placed us (quorn royals) and groby dynamo in the right division.
two outta three isnt bad in my eyes and they can always have the option to promote them to division two if they wanted.


they also placed us in the wrong divison, but that was down to us really.  A few of us had played for saturday teams where they got paid to play, and others had trials offered to them for teams like Notts Co etc. However, we went into Div 3 and got thrashed virtually every week! We'll soon see, the table doesn't lie. Personally I think on our day (swannington) we can beat anyone in the league.
Lucky7

Re: Dean

Riverside FC wrote:
The referee was top class


Bloody hell - there's a first. (Only kidding, without the refs it would be a pretty rubbish way to spend a sunday morning).
I play for Breedon, and in fairness to Riverside they absolutely battered us at their place, but weren't at their best last sunday at ours. They didn't really adapt that well to the conditions and didn't like the physical nature of our team. When I say physical, I don't mean cheating - to use a professional example, look at Bolton under Allardyce - everyone knew you were in for an uncomfortable, physical game against them.
But again, in fairness, this is sunday morning football, and I have seen A LOT worse - anyone remember Whitwick Hare & Hounds? Still have nightmares about playing that lot.

Long story short, Riverside will get promoted in first place and deservedly so, whether they go up 1 or 2 divisions, good luck to them, but there are many more stronger and more physical teams than us around  Twisted Evil
steansy

well to be fair LCFCstu you cant blame the league for putting you in that division if you gave told them you were had players who had been paid on a saturday and other players who had trials at pro clubs. i think any club must have a good idea of how good they prior to the season... and if your not 100% then its the clubs job to organise friendlies against teams from differnt divisions to test the water and give the league as much idea of there level.

With regards to the riverside.... i remember having a chat with one of there lads in town which i presume writes the write up.... i know a couple of there lads and their not bad players but he was adamant that they would easily beat us (the super quorn royals Razz) and i honest dont think there all their cracked up to be i think big fish in a small pond springs to mind haha Smile
LCFCStu

steansy wrote:
well to be fair LCFCstu you cant blame the league for putting you in that division if you gave told them you were had players who had been paid on a saturday and other players who had trials at pro clubs. i think any club must have a good idea of how good they prior to the season... and if your not 100% then its the clubs job to organise friendlies against teams from differnt divisions to test the water and give the league as much idea of there level.

With regards to the riverside.... i remember having a chat with one of there lads in town which i presume writes the write up.... i know a couple of there lads and their not bad players but he was adamant that they would easily beat us (the super quorn royals Razz) and i honest dont think there all their cracked up to be i think big fish in a small pond springs to mind haha Smile


No mate, I meant thsat they wernt to blame. we bigged ourselves up too much!
steansy

yeaa mate i didnt mean it like that... after id submitted it i read it back and didnt mean it to come across like that!! i meant new teams in general should endeavour to help the leauge as much as possible to find out which league they could compete in without walkin the league or gettin spanked every week!!
Riverside FC

Mr Swannington

you guys bigged yourselves up too much and went into div 3. Nothing has changed, you still talk a better match than you play!

When we beat you, by however many goals it was, when you were missing all of your professional players, we also had a fair few absentees.

Your claim that you could beat anyone in the league on your day is grand to say the least, but your claim that Sileby will win the title is even more unbelievable!

- Steansy

Not the same lad who does the articles who spoke to you in town, that was someone else. Some of our lads played quorn royals in a 5-a-side pre season down at barrow town, and royals looked impressive, so I personally wouldn't predict an easy victory for us there. Still, stranger things have happened!

- with regards to the screening process - i questioned it because I think we have found this league too easy at times, and it has been tough watching other teams become to demoralised when they lose so heavily, it just doesnt feel sporting. I'd rather be grinding out 1-0 wins in a competitve footballing environment. However, that's over now, and we are in div 4, and we just have to aim for promotion and see what happens from there.

With what the guy from Breedon said in mind - you cannot compare your style of football to that of Sam Allerdyce. I never saw Bolton players congratulating each other upon injuring opposition players.

- youre right that you are a physical team, (whether you see what you did as legitimate or not) and that we will meet more physical teams, that is undoubtable, but as a final comment, i can tell you that not all physical teams have tiny pitches. As you found out when you played at our place, if we spread the ball around and you cant get near it, then your hit and hope game plan is pretty ineffective, hence you got thrashed.
LCFCStu

Riverside FC wrote:
Mr Swannington

you guys bigged yourselves up too much and went into div 3. Nothing has changed, you still talk a better match than you play!
When we beat you, by however many goals it was, when you were missing all of your professional players, we also had a fair few absentees.

Your claim that you could beat anyone in the league on your day is grand to say the least, but your claim that Sileby will win the title is even more unbelievable!

- Steansy

Not the same lad who does the articles who spoke to you in town, that was someone else. Some of our lads played quorn royals in a 5-a-side pre season down at barrow town, and royals looked impressive, so I personally wouldn't predict an easy victory for us there. Still, stranger things have happened!

- with regards to the screening process - i questioned it because I think we have found this league too easy at times, and it has been tough watching other teams become to demoralised when they lose so heavily, it just doesnt feel sporting. I'd rather be grinding out 1-0 wins in a competitve footballing environment. However, that's over now, and we are in div 4, and we just have to aim for promotion and see what happens from there.

With what the guy from Breedon said in mind - you cannot compare your style of football to that of Sam Allerdyce. I never saw Bolton players congratulating each other upon injuring opposition players.

- youre right that you are a physical team, (whether you see what you did as legitimate or not) and that we will meet more physical teams, that is undoubtable, but as a final comment, i can tell you that not all physical teams have tiny pitches. As you found out when you played at our place, if we spread the ball around and you cant get near it, then your hit and hope game plan is pretty ineffective, hence you got thrashed.


1. I know we bigged ourselves up too much. Ive already said that. Well if your team were so amazing, you should be able to beat us regardless of how many players you have out, as most of us turn up after having just a couple of hours sleep anyway! 1 lad watched the hatton fight that late night in our local, and then slept in his car on the car park, which is where we meet on sunday anyway!

2. We could beat anyone in our league. We will beat you, we shouldve beat the 3 nuns, we beat them twice last season, we've beat breedon this year, and twice last season, though they are definately getting stronger.
Krashslaughta75

Re: Dean

Lucky7 wrote:
Riverside FC wrote:
The referee was top class


Bloody hell - there's a first. (Only kidding, without the refs it would be a pretty rubbish way to spend a sunday morning).
I play for Breedon, and in fairness to Riverside they absolutely battered us at their place, but weren't at their best last sunday at ours. They didn't really adapt that well to the conditions and didn't like the physical nature of our team. When I say physical, I don't mean cheating - to use a professional example, look at Bolton under Allardyce - everyone knew you were in for an uncomfortable, physical game against them.
But again, in fairness, this is sunday morning football, and I have seen A LOT worse - anyone remember Whitwick Hare & Hounds? Still have nightmares about playing that lot.


Hahahaha I've been involved in the CSFL for a good 12 years or so and I've seen some teams but in no particular order, the teams you used to cringe playing against for whatever reason other than quality

1. Royal Oak Ibstock. Without a shadow of a doubt the worse side to play ever. Psycho centre midfielder with tattoo's on his skull. Birstallstamfordnumber1 will vouch for that.

2. Woodside Rangers. Ditto.

3. Coalville Paints. Only for the pitch and the facilities.

Great memories. It's what Sunday's are all about
Long story short, Riverside will get promoted in first place and deservedly so, whether they go up 1 or 2 divisions, good luck to them, but there are many more stronger and more physical teams than us around  Twisted Evil
Ian @ Birstall Trees

Krashslaughta75 wrote:
Lucky7 wrote:
Riverside FC wrote:
The referee was top class


Bloody hell - there's a first. (Only kidding, without the refs it would be a pretty rubbish way to spend a sunday morning).
I play for Breedon, and in fairness to Riverside they absolutely battered us at their place, but weren't at their best last sunday at ours. They didn't really adapt that well to the conditions and didn't like the physical nature of our team. When I say physical, I don't mean cheating - to use a professional example, look at Bolton under Allardyce - everyone knew you were in for an uncomfortable, physical game against them.
But again, in fairness, this is sunday morning football, and I have seen A LOT worse - anyone remember Whitwick Hare & Hounds? Still have nightmares about playing that lot.


Hahahaha I've been involved in the CSFL for a good 12 years or so and I've seen some teams but in no particular order, the teams you used to cringe playing against for whatever reason other than quality

1. Royal Oak Ibstock. Without a shadow of a doubt the worse side to play ever. Psycho centre midfielder with tattoo's on his skull. Birstallstamfordnumber1 will vouch for that.

2. Woodside Rangers. Ditto.

3. Coalville Paints. Only for the pitch and the facilities.

Great memories. It's what Sunday's are all about
Long story short, Riverside will get promoted in first place and deservedly so, whether they go up 1 or 2 divisions, good luck to them, but there are many more stronger and more physical teams than us around  Twisted Evil
I can remember playing for Birstall United Old Boys in the leicester Sunday League, and playing a team called Manchester Rockets, who unsuprisingly used to let off rockets when they scored, and aim fireworks at you if you scored against them.

Can also remember playing against New Parks WMC, and having to baracade ourselves in to their changing rooms as they were trying to get at us with hammers, all because we scored against them

Sunday morning football - can't beat it
missj

lol coalville paints was a great side. wasnt afraid to play anyone, was firm but fair....think u was just worried about playin us. nothing wrong with the changin rooms ( showers worked and they were locked ) unlike some places now a days, even in this day and ages some off the places u go r shocking lol. pitch was nice and compacted with a slope. the only problem was dog --expletive used-- not allowed! - This is a warning!, which u get every where now a days.
Krashslaughta75

Luckily when we played Manchester Rockets in a friendly we won without conceeding but yes I knew about the fireworks aimed at the head hahaha partly cause those that did it were the same LCFC mob we used to man up with in the old Filbert Street days.

I can vouch for Aylestone WMC being a bit rum in the old City League days many,many,many moons ago but for sheer nastiness, Shoulder of Mutton pub away when BSFC had a Saturday side would've took the biscuit.

BUOB eh? Care to talk about the lineman battering someone half to death with the flag? And to think I used to date his daughter 12 years ago when it happened  Rolling Eyes
Lucky7

Ian @ Birstall Trees wrote:


Can also remember playing against New Parks WMC, and having to baracade ourselves in to their changing rooms as they were trying to get at us with hammers, all because we scored against them

Sunday morning football - can't beat it


Think we played them in the cup once - the pitch had tyre marks all over it from the boy racers the night before - at one point the ball was running straight, hit the rut where the tyre marks were and just followed the tracks way off to the left.
Lucky7

Riverside FC wrote:

With what the guy from Breedon said in mind - you cannot compare your style of football to that of Sam Allerdyce. I never saw Bolton players congratulating each other upon injuring opposition players.

- youre right that you are a physical team, (whether you see what you did as legitimate or not) and that we will meet more physical teams, that is undoubtable, but as a final comment, i can tell you that not all physical teams have tiny pitches. As you found out when you played at our place, if we spread the ball around and you cant get near it, then your hit and hope game plan is pretty ineffective, hence you got thrashed.


I've never seen our players congratulating each other for getting someone injured either.

What's the size of the pitch got to do with anything? We were without our goalkeeper and best outfield player at your place and we didn't play well - you would have beaten us by the same score on any sized pitch - ours included. The best we've played this season has actually been away at Swannington and Walsh - two of the bigger pitches in the league.

But I think the main reason we lost at your place was the fact we had to get changed in a kids park.  Very Happy
Riverside FC

yeah that must be really damaging.

you still having nightmares about it?

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