Charnwood Sunday Football League

Celtic_Steve · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: Cut the ****

I don't know if anyone's seen this yet?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7242810.stm

It's an interesting stance and I would like to know what members of this league think; that's league officials, players and club officials.

Of course if this is successful there will be the usual waterfall effect of regulations so it will affect us at some point no doubt.

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RefSec · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject:

As an official, I think that you would end up with just about all games abandoned. I have never had a problem with players using a bit of language in frustration due to a rubbish shot or mistimed pass. If this covered those eventualities then, especially on a Sunday morning, my opinion is that it could very well be unworkable.
If the 'foul language' is directed at someone then I will always have an issue with that as well as general dissent, and I think that sanctions should be taken against the offender. (before anyone says, Yes, I know I'm a tight arse on a pitch!!)
I think that there should be more respect in general for officials and players, but unfortunately this isn't going to happen when the upper levels of the game don't provide a decent role model to show the grass roots how it should be done.
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Admin (No PMs Please!) · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject:

As a referee... would be nice to have it toned down a little, but you'll never get rid of it. It's either the player, the manager or a spectator -- and in grassroots football it will never work, regardless of whether the pro's do this or not.

As a League Official...:
1. A small number of "paying spectators" are part of the problem! How are they going to get rid of "verbal sewage" as they put it, when they cannot stop the spectators from doing it?
2. Advising match officials on how to apply the Laws of the Game may be okay, as long as it is only advice. However, there's no guarantee on how a person will react to the advice (if they even react!). Also, the referee has his/her own mind and will still interpret the Laws of the Game just as much as they do now!
3. It does fit rather well with the RESPECT scheme, but it will not be effective enough (short or long term) to drive it out of the game enough to make it more enjoyable for juniors.... and let's face it, this is driven quite a bit to help protect the juniors playing the game more than the adults.
4. Every League is concerned with the amount of abusive languague... does not mean there is a plausible way to get rid of it... especially in football that is NOT in the football pyramid!
5. I'm sure this will be watched very closely, until the time that it is deemed a failure and then the League will be on their own... backing of this nature is good if it all works out, so the FA can say, "See, we are making a really positive move in the right direction". However, when (not if!) this does not work out, the FA will say something along the lines of, "Well, we gave our full backing, however we were a little sceptical to begin with." -- Therefore the League is on their own, and maybe their CFA will help them recover... maybe.
6. That will never effect the grassroots level in my opinion -- they cannot trial this in that kind of environment. Plus we are not commercial enough, and so would not warrant this "intrusion".

As a spectator of A LOT of football (live and on TV!!!), what a load of BS! It will not work; Premier League, Football League, Non-League == too commercially driven.... grassroots football == not commercial enough to warrant the money being spent on it!

My little "rant" is over....
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Celtic_Steve · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject:

Doesn't look like it's happening now...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7288115.stm
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missj · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:

my view is this MEN use football after a long working week to vent some frustrations they swear be it at someone or themselves, anger takes over if they disagree with a decision and so many men and spectators alike WILL more often than not swear it will NEVER be cut out of football completely IF people dont want to hear swearing or their children to hear swearing then dont go to a football match im sorry but in frustration many people swear football at times can be a very frustrating game especially if things are tough (wrong decisions, not given decisions, biased referees (sorry to the refs), mistimed shots , missed passes etc etc) the list goes on. PEOPLE CHOOSE TO GO AND WATCH, PLAY AND EVEN REFEREE MATCHES, WELL THAT IS YOUR CHOICE YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE SWEARING SO IF YOU FIND IT OFFENSIVE DONT GO DONT REF AND DONT WATCH!!!!!!!! And as i said this is my opinion i dont expect people to agree with it and everyone is entitled to free speech i dont want to cause an argument with anyone
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